View Full Version : Sighting of Unauthorized Hybrid, or Records Error?
Loud Howard
01-04-2010, 21:38
This unfortunately cannot be 100% confirmed as I only discovered it when taking a look at the statistics screen. However, it's saying "hybrids killed: 1", when I haven't played any custom missions in 1.02. So unless they snuck into one of the new campaigns, something is up. The weird part is that there have been none of the usual signs of them cropping up. The "force ranged enemies to spawn" option didn't mysteriously activate itself nor have I seen one of my men randomly drop dead when confronted by a bug at non melee range.
So what seems to have happened is either I ran into a hybrid and one of my men dutifully killed it before it could cause any trouble, or there's some error in the records.
Figured I should let you guys know about this as I know this has happened seemingly at random from time to time.
We've had people reporting about "rogue hybrids" but we've never been able to reproduce it ourselves.
The "killed hybrids" counter SHOULD only increase when the enemy that was killed had size == 3 (hybrid).
..and no official campaigns in the 1.02 contain any hybrids.
Hence the "rogue" title of the hybrid. :tongue:
Sliver-Rako
01-19-2010, 21:08
my sgt. just got killed by a rogue hybrid I've set it so they shouldnt be there and yet one came and shot my sgt. in the face ...i know if he had hs helmet on he might of lived and its his own fault ...still abit strange it was there.... this isnt even the first time it's happened
Sounds very odd that you have so many issues with this an some never get it ones. I've never seen it, I don't think any other in the dev team have had hybrids roaming the field.
Sliver-Rako
01-20-2010, 08:44
it's not a big problem just abit of a shock when it happens and it only seems to happen on one map
Spoken a bit to Jorgen about this and one thing we discussed was if it could be a case of combination with special settings configuration combined with custom content...since we never noticed it ones and we have been playing this game daily for three years (this exe for more or less 6 months) without encountering it a single time. It can't be just (bad?) luck that some people get it pretty frequently...no offence - you are after all finding bugs made by me. ;)
Sliver-Rako
01-20-2010, 10:08
it happens to me on a map i've made so might be somethin i've done to myself :scared: lol
Still, enemies should not just appear out of thin air and hybrids should not spawn unless you have allowed them to do so ("blip max size 7" and/or force "hybrids to spawn").
Sliver-Rako
01-20-2010, 11:01
hhmmm i know i have the hybrids off and i think i have six on the blip size not sure on that one tho
Orgetorix
01-23-2010, 20:26
Just caught a rouge Hybrid in the wild. I was testing out Alex's new campaign Silent Voyager on the second mission "Assassin", when out of nowhere a blip turns the corner and starts shooting at me. I got a screenshot and not being sure what you'd need in the data folder I just uploaded the entire folder. http://www.filefront.com/15411629/data.rar
The hybrid is the alien coming up the corridor out of the room in the southeast corner of the map.
http://bayimg.com/NAJBiAaCO
Orgetorix
01-23-2010, 20:35
I should also add that I slightly modified his .map file for that map, removed 1 marine and changed the flamer to a VC for play testing game balance. I didn't change anything dealing with enemy spawns though, and I went back and looked and hybrids should be disabled. Here's the modified version. http://www.filefront.com/15411725/SilentVoyager%28Assasin%29.rar
First of all I want to say super thanks to Orgetorix for sending me this data! It appears like the hybrid blip spawns from an entrypoint but the mission only allows for blips of size 0-3 (hybrids = 7).
I tried spawning 300.000 blips on that mission and NONE was a hybrid. So I cannot find the bug causing it. I will however add some "in case shit happens" post fixes checking all blips during the mission changing any incorrect sized ones.
Orgetorix
01-25-2010, 10:28
First of all I want to say super thanks to Orgetorix for sending me this data! It appears like the hybrid blip spawns from an entrypoint but the mission only allows for blips of size 0-3 (hybrids = 7).
I tried spawning 300.000 blips on that mission and NONE was a hybrid. So I cannot find the bug causing it. I will however add some "in case shit happens" post fixes checking all blips during the mission changing any incorrect sized ones.
No problem, glad to help. I think that's the 3rd one I've seen, not sure though about the other 2 because they died before I could get a screen and quit the game. This bugger just got lucky and survived 3 shots from a bolter :)
Orgetorix: Check pm, mate. :thumbsup:
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